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Notes from Underground

Fyodor Dostoevsky

Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group, Jan 12, 2011

162 Pages
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Russell Block

Aug 3, 2024

The use of envy to describe how the narrator potentially felt about Liza is interesting. He certainly envies his former friends. The idea, though, that a man envies a woman he wishes to seduce is strange, and I would need to consider its implications. With both HI’s former friends and Liza he attempts to confirm and then explodes in a self indulgent passion. This pattern of behavior suggests he could envy both friends and Liza. Whereas with his friends, the narrator wants what they have, with Liza he wants her to esteem him, which she does not, so what does he envy? He would need to envy that she is indifferent to him, which he cannot be to himself, and this would set him up for failure. ## X

Russell Block

Aug 3, 2024

## IX This idea of being poor and noble, although presented here ludicrously and in bad faith, ties back to my note on the spiritual strategy of poverty.

Russell Block

Aug 3, 2024

## VIII

Russell Block

Aug 3, 2024

This total loss of control to self indulgent harangues has a fidelity to life. It is interesting to see hope many young men succumb to this, and it all stems from an inescapable to parse complexity and the shame that comes with that failure. — Eh, but then I put too much of contemporary themes into my reading of this antique.

Russell Block

Aug 3, 2024

## VII

Russell Block

Aug 2, 2024

## VI

Russell Block

Aug 2, 2024

To be moved by self pitying romantics, especially when the counterparties stand in opposition to you with true disdain, and to go about in agitation towards others is hell.

Russell Block

Aug 2, 2024

This section makes me reflect on how desperate we are for satisfaction when we are in dire straits, especially when there is little chance for mobility in society. A natural response would be to become spiritual, or at least engage in some manner of spiritual athletics, but this comes neither with epaulets or vestments, and leaves the man who feels to acutely his disregard in the same place he started. ## V

Russell Block

Aug 2, 2024

## IV

Russell Block

Jul 31, 2024

Perhaps here with Simonov does our narrator make more of him, drop his apparent ordinariness, because it is how he thinks of himself, despite his own insignificance. ## III

Russell Block

Jul 31, 2024

## II

Russell Block

Jul 31, 2024

Select American tragedies might have been avoided in this same manner, if only the American spirit was more neurotic and less grandiose.

Russell Block

Jul 29, 2024

To envy or disdain everything by turns is to be nothing.

Russell Block

Jul 29, 2024

Dost was likely influenced positively by the romantics he alludes to, but must have felt personally how he was not like them, how he was tarnished, in part by being Russian, or in his philosophy of what it is to be Russian. This analysis of how stuck the underground man is is a deep articulation of his intellectual divergence from the romantics.

Russell Block

Jul 29, 2024

Heine and Rousseau, both previously mentioned by the narrator, would, I assume, be examples of German and French translunary romantics.

Russell Block

Jul 29, 2024

# II Apropos of the Wet Snow ## I

Russell Block

Jul 29, 2024

The underground man’s modern analogue does not even thirst for life, but still resolved the lack of thirst in logical tangles.

Russell Block

Jul 29, 2024

## XI

Russell Block

Jul 29, 2024

> I have the underground.

Russell Block

Jul 24, 2024

The littl'e table is the precursor to the infinite scroll, only the scroll miles a sense of importance that we conflate with proving oneself a man that we are content to simply be an extension of the algorithm. ## IX

Russell Block

Jul 24, 2024

Man as piano keys.

Russell Block

Jan 24, 2024

Wanting in accordance with a little table is especially interesting when you consider its similarities to Soviet style communism, and I have to wonder if Dost is not pulling this directly from elsewhere, and furthermore if that idea was influential in early communist thinking. *Notes* is published in the 1860s, right around the time Marx's *Capital* is published.

Russell Block

Jan 23, 2024

## IV

Russell Block

Jan 22, 2024

## III

Russell Block

Jan 22, 2024

It has been a minute since I read _Crime and Punishment_, but this idea that any consciousness at all is a sickness reminds me of Sonya objecting to the idea that any human being could be a louse.

Russell Block

Jan 21, 2024

## II

Russell Block

Jan 21, 2024

This witticism might be clearer in the Russian.

Russell Block

Jan 21, 2024

# I _Underground_ ## I Dostoyevsky's footnote here is a simple statement, but the ability to go partway without one's self to voice a generalized complaint, or confession, is one that most people living today have lost. The mode is not one that comports with our standard modes of communication. This mode is not an opinionated one. It requires far more empathy.

Russell Block

Jan 21, 2024

_Notes from Underground_ is being used as part of a bookclub to help us learn about how to explicitly support bookclubs on Papertrail. We are reading the Richard Pear and Larissa Volokhonsky translation, from whom I have previously read _Crime and Punishment_ and _Dead Souls_. The translation is widely considered to be very good, and another member of this book club, who can read Russian, may have something to say about the translation in her own notes.

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